Fear II
David Domsch
A young
pastor who I know well, Ryan Wendt, raised questions and concerns about the
article Fear that I wrote for the
Fall 2011 Daystar Journal. (To read
that article click here) Unlike my
experience on several websites, the questions and comments that Ryan offered are
civil. They deserve a response in kind.
Though Ryan’s thoughts were posted on Facebook, that is a venue I have
chosen to avoid. Since he was responding to the article that appeared here, it
is appropriate that our discussion continue here as well.
Ryan
writes:
Mr.
Domsch, greetings from Montana. You might remember me as one of your younger
son’s friends from KCLHS. I just finished reading your article on fear and I
have a long list of questions and comments in my mind but I don’t have the time
during this season of the church year to ask and discuss them all with you.
Maybe over a beer some day while I’m visiting KC again. For now, I do have one
question I would really like an answer to; along with one somewhat lengthy
comment that I think I should make.
First the question (with some follow up and a few more questions); if this
article is representative of your beliefs, and the LC-MS is wrong in these many
areas, what is it that keeps you in the LC-MS? I really do not understand why so
many who share your beliefs and desire changes in our practice don’t join one of
the many synods (or non-denominational churches) that already articulate these
beliefs and their necessary practices. Is it love for all of us in the LC-MS who
are wrong that keeps you here? Do you desire to reform and purify the Synod of
those who believe wrongly according to your doctrine? Or is it something as
simple as idolatry to an organization or congregation that you have been a part
of for many more years than I’ve been alive?
I’m not trying to offend, I simply don’t understand what keeps you in the LC-MS
with all of her problems and errors. To further clarify; if this organization
that I am voluntarily a member of decides to depart from what Scripture teaches
as has been articulated in the Book of Concord since 1580, then I will leave
this organization. I knew what they believed and confessed before I joined; no
one tricked me or brain washed me into accepting something that I don’t believe
to be true from Scripture. So again, what is it that keeps you in this Synod? I
have never heard an answer to this question from someone who publicly holds to
different positions than our Synod teaches and holds to. Please help me
understand.
Here is
my response:
Ryan, I
remember you well. I would enjoy having a beer and discussing this or other
topics with you in person. As that does not appear likely in the immediate
future, perhaps a written discussion will at least advance understanding.
You
fundamentally ask why I stay in the LCMS when I disagree with its positions in
many areas. The question, I believe, rests on at least 3 false assumptions or
misconceptions:
The
first is that there is one LCMS position on the items raised in the article.
That is not the case and never has been, despite what you have evidently been
taught. There is no “LCMS Doctrine.” The Scriptures are the only source of
doctrine. We also believe the Confessions are a true explication of what
Scripture says. The reality, however, is that people can and do understand and
interpret Scripture and the Confessions in somewhat different ways. The LCMS
founding documents clearly understand this. That is why the Constitution clearly
says the Synod is only advisory and differences in understanding are subject to
discussion on the basis of Scripture. That is the only mechanism in the
Constitution to work through differences. This reality is very frustrating to
many who want (need!) to believe that there is only one position – that their
understanding is “pure” – or that Synodical resolutions somehow establish LCMS
Doctrine.
One of
the things that most worries me about the LCMS is a gradual substitution of
political power (expressed in getting resolutions passed at convention or in
other ways) for Scriptural discussion as a means of resolving differences. This
is a hugely dangerous development in the church over the last half century or
so. We do have freedom under both the Gospel and the LCMS Constitution to
disagree with each other in good conscience. The directive in both is to study
and discuss – not to simply claim to have truth and reject all else.
A
second assumption is that the issues raised in the article are somehow new –
that the positions you hold have always been the positions of the LCMS. That
assumption justifies a belief that anyone with another thought is obliged to go
somewhere else. Sorry to disappoint, but discussion on the basis of Scripture is
and always has been a core value of the LCMS. The position that everything is
settled and everyone must agree on everything is the new and radical position.
You have probably been taught that the 1932 “Brief Statement” – or JAO Preus’
“Statement” of 1972 somehow establish LCMS doctrine. The first was Pieper’s
statement of what he believed, based on his understandings at the time. Pieper
was certainly a respected church leader and his statement reflected much of what
was widely believed at the time and was passed with little discussion. The
second was a clearly political document intended to further a political agenda
in a time of significant controversy in the church. It barely generated a
majority after intense political work leading up to the 1973 convention. Many
lined up to register their objection to the power play it represented.
I strongly objected to parts of it at that time and continue to find much
objectionable in it. The we confess / we reject format raised so many straw men
that it generated great fear in many who read it – the primary purpose of the
publication. No one ever claimed that JAO was not an extremely effective
politician.
Both
statements, it is true, were adopted by a Synodical convention. At my first
convention I was surprised to learn that like me, 60% the delegates had never
been at a convention before. I have since learned that is standard – almost
never have even half of the delegates participated before. Further, there was no
forum for delegate discussion prior to the convention. A delegate body that is
both inexperienced and ignorant can easily be swayed by those with a committed
position and the political kills to sell it.
That is
why the LCMS constitution makes it clear that adopting a resolution at
convention is not establishing doctrine for the church. The LCMS Constitution
sets a high bar before something can be called a “doctrinal statement”.
After extensive discussion throughout Synod, a proposal clearly labeled
as such must be approved by 2/3 of the congregations of synod before it becomes
an official statement of LCMS doctrine.
No statement has even attempted to hurdle this bar. It is much easier to
get a convention vote. A later claim that synod has an agreed “doctrine” based
on that vote is easy to make – and too many apparently believe it.
This
shift to a political process was fully evident by 1973 – and became so extreme
that at his retirement convention JAO Preus himself publicly berated his brother
and those allied with him for power politics at the expense of the church. I
know at least one person ,who knew JAO personally, who believes he had come to
regret his reliance on political means rather than the process of theological
discussion because of the damage his approach was obviously causing.
I was
blessed with a solid education within LCMS schools from first grade through
college graduation. Professors demanded that we think – not just parrot back
their thoughts. Grothaus taught the
value of history, Wente the beauty of philosophy, Klotz the symmetry of Genetics
– and so many more. We spent many evenings – often over a beverage – enjoyably
discussing various theological (and non-theological) topics with no fear that
something we said was “out of bounds.” Unfortunately, that freedom to discuss,
debate and explore was considered a threat by those who wanted to exercise more
control. The excellent institution that fostered widespread inquiry and
exploration was shortly dismantled.
As I
see it, the dynamic church body that I grew up in – conservative to be sure –
but rapidly growing and open to civilly discuss and debate issues was hijacked
by an extreme element not even from the LCMS.
The far more right wing ELS is the source of this demand for conformity
in all things. They had severed fellowship with the LCMS because we weren’t pure
enough – but leaders with deep roots in that denomination rose to positions of
power in the LCMS and implemented an extreme right wing agenda based on fear and
demand for conformity in all things. It is not I who have changed, it is the
leadership of the LCMS – especially in its seminaries.
The
fruit of this change is a church body that has declined in membership every year
since 1970 and become increasingly insular and focused inward, erecting barriers
to entry rather than “being all things to all people so that I may win some.” If
we believe, “by their fruit you shall know them,” this is sour fruit indeed.
Stung by results, some now claim and teach “remnant” status. In my opinion that
is a sorry attempt to self-justify – to hide from the reality that the church is
not focused on doing the job it has been given – the job of reaching people with
the Gospel.
A final
misconception has to do with the polity of Synod. I am a member of a
congregation, not of the Synod itself – as many in the clergy are eager to
affirm. There remain a large number of congregations in Synod where I can be
quite comfortable participating and being of service. For my congregation, Synod
is increasingly irrelevant – as is the case with many other congregations I
know. The local congregation goes about its job in the local community and Synod
has little impact or relevance to that work. Should a congregation where I
participate ever reach a decision to leave the LCMS, I would probably also no
longer be a member of the LCMS. That has not yet happened.
Ryan
continues:
Now the
comment; one of your last bullet points in the article says: (“•Evidence from
any source other than scripture is ignored or defined as heretical. Despite
overwhelming evidence from many sources and disciplines, adherence a 6-day
creation some 6,000 years ago is required.”) (Note, I assume a “to” is missing
in your sentence.) This statement is representative of the major problem with
nearly everything else you have complained about being wrong in our Synod. Your
words, “other than Scripture” says it all. Surely in your reading of Luther you
read concerning the Solas; Grace alone, Faith alone, Scripture alone. Scripture
is the inspired Word of God, not the word of man. Sure you can depart from it
and no-one can force you to adhere to it or believe it, but what is left when
you depart from what the Word of God says? If you can reject the literal 6-day
creation of Genesis, then why not reject the resurrection also? Plenty of
outside sources report that Jesus’ body was stolen from the tomb and that He
didn’t rise from the dead. Should we listen to those “other” sources too? Talk
about creating doubt and fear! If God’s Word can’t be trusted in Genesis, then
why should we believe any of it all? The devil did it best, “Did God really
say…” but many have departed from the Word and mimicked him since. Fear is not
the problem, Mr. Domsch, not fearing and loving God and His Word is the problem.
I then
responded:
Yes,
Ryan, the “to” is missing. I apologize for not doing better proofreading.
More
importantly, I, at least, see the obvious fear that lies beneath this comment.
Fear that any chink in an armor of beliefs will unravel everything. This is so
fundamentally un-Lutheran as to be really scary. If this is what is being taught
in the Seminaries, those institutions have really lost their way.
As to
the issue your raise, I fundamentally believe that Scripture and scientific
investigation exist for different ends and use different tools. Scripture was
given to people by God to help us define and maintain our relationship with Him.
Scripture was not intended to be a science text defining everything.
Most of the Old Testament was passed orally through many generations of
pre-literate people before being reduced to a written form that, even then, was
primarily a mnemonic device to keep the cantor on track. Given this reality, to
claim Scripture is a science text constraining scientific inquiry is simply
untenable to me. Science, on the other hand, was and is confined to finding
explanations for phenomena that can be explored. The relationship of man to God
is clearly outside that charter. In its quest science has uncovered overwhelming
evidence – in fields as diverse as geology, genetics, astronomy, physics and
many more – that the earth is much older than 6,000 years – an age that
scripture itself does not claim.
That age was developed by Ussher based on lists of descendents,
a questionable methodology at best.
Claiming that all scientific
evidence must be rejected because it is not in concert with a 17th-century
chronology and a literal interpretation of poetic chapters written thousands of
years ago for a totally different purpose is, to me at least, beyond belief.
Worse, insisting on this does massive harm as young people are exposed to this
evidence and come to question the truth of everything the church teaches. At one
time the church used the text “the sun stood still” to argue for a geocentric
universe in the face of evidence to the contrary. In principle, that is the same
argument you make. It is an argument that has a long and dubious history. My
father was still being taught a Ptolemaic universe in the 1920’s – a position no
one can defend today. In this and other areas the church has (generally without
acknowledgement) seen former positions change. The danger of your argument of
“all or nothing” is that some lesser aspects of what you or I believe now will
change in the future as well. What then? Does everyone lose faith? No.
History shows that people of faith find a way to accommodate reality.
A
friend (PhD in nuclear physics) signs his e-mail with the phrase, “All Truth is
God’s Truth,” a testament to both his faith and profession. To burden Scripture
with being scientifically precise to today’s understandings in a message
originally delivered to a pre-literate people simply doesn’t make sense to me.
The point of Genesis 1 is clear in the very first verse. That is the core
point of the narrative. To me, a literalist interpretation of a poetic narrative
is not being true to the word – it is imposing a foreign spirit on what it says.
This
also goes directly to the point of intellectual dishonesty in the simplistic
claim that only others “interpret” Scripture. All people interpret Scripture
with the tools they have available, leading to much variation in emphasis and
understanding. All people emphasize some concepts contained in Scripture more
than others. Claiming that one group has a monopoly on truth is worse than
dishonest – it harms the church’s ability to do its job of bringing the saving
word of God to people. Open discussion and the intellectual honesty to believe
that others may have insights that are valid are so basic to the Lutheran
tradition that I cannot understand why some in the LCMS are so set on a totally
different path.
Ryan
closes:
I
respect you as an elder and for your many years of service in our Synod, but
heartily, yet sadly, disagree with the large majority of what you have written.
Luke 12:4-5
4 “And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body,
and after that have no more that they can do. 5 “But I will warn you whom to
fear: fear the One who after He has killed has authority to cast into hell; yes,
I tell you, fear Him! (NAS)
In Christ,
Ryan Wendt
My
response:
Ryan, I
appreciate your kind words and the civil tone of the questions and comments. I
really do. The only way understanding expands and differences are dealt with is
in civil discussion. Thanks for expressing your thoughts and giving me the
opportunity to respond.
I also
ask that you take the time to look at the context of the passage that closes
your thoughts. As I read it, this passage comes after Jesus’ dressing down the
Pharisees for observing forms but missing the central message. He exhorts
disciples to reject the fear-inducing tactics of the Pharisees – to not be
afraid of them or (in subsequent verses) others who would harm them in any way.
The fundamental message of this whole section of scripture is to not be afraid.
The single reference to fearing God is like a counterpoint to the core argument
– God is worth fearing – it is not the core of the message of this section of
Scripture. Quoting only this
passage without its context is, in my view, very problematic – symptomatic of a
“proof-texting” approach that I find both too common and very disturbing.
In
closing, Ryan, both your comment and the text you chose to close your post
eloquently make the point of my original article. Fear is the driver of far too
much in the LCMS – and it is so inculcated that many suffering from it don’t
even recognize how deeply they are bound by it. Fear and faith are fundamentally
opposing concepts. I really do feel sorry for all who continue to live in fear –
rather than in the gospel’s clear message of freedom in Christ – and thus miss
the core re-discovery of the Lutheran Reformation.
Christ conquered the fear of not being right with God. That
understanding is central to what it means to be Lutheran. I strongly encourage
you to take a wider look at the whole of Scripture, and come to learn what
Luther learned several centuries ago. Fear is not the message. Freedom in Christ
is the message.